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Originally Posted by timun
Lol at the above. It's precisely what you're meant to feel.
The only part you've got wrong is Joel taking away Ellie's agency to make her own decisions. It was Marlene who did that, as Ellie wasn't informed she'd die on the operating table.
Everyone sucks here. No one is in the right.
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Joel and Marlene did the same thing. Marlene by trying to kill her, Joel by murdering the doctor and then lying. Joel took away her agency by killing the doctor. That was a self serving decision that allowed him to have his daughter back.. He easily could have shot a knee cap to end the surgery. There is no ambiguity he was as wrong as Marlene.
Joel doesn’t really love Ellie he loves himself as he always did. He is unredeemed despite the shows first 8 episodes trying to convince you he had changed.