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Old 03-13-2023, 12:13 AM   #1170
timun
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In the end Joel didn’t grow at all. He starts off being kinda a ####ty dad who is self interested but obviously loves his daughter and ends up kinda a ####ty person who takes away Ellie’s agency to make her own decisions.

Joel sucks

I like Ellie knowing that Joel lied but wanting to believe it and not wanting to know the truth.
Lol at the above. It's precisely what you're meant to feel.

The only part you've got wrong is Joel taking away Ellie's agency to make her own decisions. It was Marlene who did that, as Ellie wasn't informed she'd die on the operating table.

Everyone sucks here. No one is in the right.
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