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McG · 03-11-2023, 01:37 PM

Against the greasers in the playoffs, I never thought that the Beaver outcoached Sutter, but I thought Sutter outcoached himself. It was as if he was too stuck in a groove…like he wouldn’t change. So when the Beav started double shifting Mavi and Pissy, Sutter’s response was to keep rolling lines instead of sending backlund’s line out to check. It meant that the wonder twins were out every other shift against some other line. I pushed it out of my head.

Except that I see it again now. Lines are blendered but it’s still roll 4 lines. Sutter can’t or won’t make tactical decisions in games. We would have lost to the wild if it wasn’t a league challenge; Sutter wasn’t going to challenge. Pp sucks. OT terrible. The players really don’t look like they are happy. Average.

Yeah, Sutter is one of the problems. Treliving too. Absolutely terrible asset management over his tenure here. Playoffs sacrificed for long term gain? Nope. Playoffs delivered at the expense of futures? Nope. Make the playoffs once in a while and lose first round. What vision? Treliving did well on the chucky trade after blowing the gaudreau situation. But Treliving was the one that created the chucky contract issue. Flames drafting has not improved. Development not improving. Wranglers doing well but when does that translate to the rest of the flames. And coaching selection? If Edwards insisted on Sutter, it’s because peters was hired from a list of one from Treliving meeting him with team Canada, gulutzan was a single list hire after a hike on grouse mountain, ward was a promotion when peters left. Why does Treliving walk players to free agency? Average.

Could I or any of us step into these roles? Obviously not. But it’s the same thing over and over and there seems to be no plan, no consistency.

I think hockey operations and the entire coaching staff needs an overhaul.

I posted this elsewhere, but Lombardi for GM and Quenneville for coach.

Flames are an average team with average performances and average outcomes.

I wish and hope that I’m wrong. It makes me sad.

03-11-2023, 01:37 PM	#152
McG Franchise Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Elbows Up!! Exp:	Against the greasers in the playoffs, I never thought that the Beaver outcoached Sutter, but I thought Sutter outcoached himself. It was as if he was too stuck in a groove…like he wouldn’t change. So when the Beav started double shifting Mavi and Pissy, Sutter’s response was to keep rolling lines instead of sending backlund’s line out to check. It meant that the wonder twins were out every other shift against some other line. I pushed it out of my head. Except that I see it again now. Lines are blendered but it’s still roll 4 lines. Sutter can’t or won’t make tactical decisions in games. We would have lost to the wild if it wasn’t a league challenge; Sutter wasn’t going to challenge. Pp sucks. OT terrible. The players really don’t look like they are happy. Average. Yeah, Sutter is one of the problems. Treliving too. Absolutely terrible asset management over his tenure here. Playoffs sacrificed for long term gain? Nope. Playoffs delivered at the expense of futures? Nope. Make the playoffs once in a while and lose first round. What vision? Treliving did well on the chucky trade after blowing the gaudreau situation. But Treliving was the one that created the chucky contract issue. Flames drafting has not improved. Development not improving. Wranglers doing well but when does that translate to the rest of the flames. And coaching selection? If Edwards insisted on Sutter, it’s because peters was hired from a list of one from Treliving meeting him with team Canada, gulutzan was a single list hire after a hike on grouse mountain, ward was a promotion when peters left. Why does Treliving walk players to free agency? Average. Could I or any of us step into these roles? Obviously not. But it’s the same thing over and over and there seems to be no plan, no consistency. I think hockey operations and the entire coaching staff needs an overhaul. I posted this elsewhere, but Lombardi for GM and Quenneville for coach. Flames are an average team with average performances and average outcomes. I wish and hope that I’m wrong. It makes me sad. __________________ Franchise > Team > Player Future historians will celebrate June 24, 2024 as the date when the timeline corrected itself. Last edited by McG; 03-11-2023 at 01:39 PM.