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Originally Posted by Azure

Except the nature of war is such that innocent people always get killed on both sides, which is why its tough to pin it down on individual people.

The US as an example has with their drone operations killed how many thousands of innocent people the past decade? One could make the argument that Obama, as the President who most aggressively expanded the program, should be the one held liable for war crimes due to how removed the actual operators of the drones or the people in the field are from the actual kill site. But for some reason people give him a pass, and even look on him fondly as a formidable POTUS.

War is not as simple as this side good / that side bad.

That being said, we have more than enough evidence that there was and is a lot of mass killings, murder, rape being committed by Russian troops, which if anyone has followed Wagner, isn't really surprised. So to me, it is valid to refer to the Russian troops in the way that many here do, and many in Ukraine do, as they have not followed even the standard code of conflict.

It could not be any clearer, Ukraine is the good side.