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Old 03-02-2023, 09:43 AM   #9298
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree View Post
But it’s not at the expense of the rest of the population because it does not affect the rest of the population. For every trans female athlete there are going to be cis female athletes below and above them in terms of ability. It has no impact on those above them, and you can’t automatically assume because of the fact that they medically transitioned that they have advantages on even the ones below them, beyond the typical range of physical ability in cis women.

If you take the position that trans athletes should be able to compete in categories that match their post-transition bodies, you aren’t accommodating anyone. Girls with girls, boys with boys, exactly as it is now. Arguing that they should be separated out is attempting to accommodate people.
I'm going to assume from "girls with girls, boys with boys" that you're approaching this in the context of trans kids/teens. I don't even think that's a pressing concern for a multitude of reasons, and I really don't care what they do at that age.

When we start talking about adult competition, the Canadian cyclist is kind of the point -- figuratively speaking, they're rag-dolling the competition and they've only been competing professionally for five years, but they've had the benefit of 32 years of male physiology prior. I think GGG's suggestion that you let them compete up until the elite level is probably a workable starting point, but even then the age of transition is going to have a huge influence on the advantage someone is going to be afforded relative to their CIS peers.
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