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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Now you’re back to saying it IS a risk that needs to be addressed, so which is it?
For it to be something that needs to be addressed, you need to be able to quantify it. So, go ahead. The onus is on you to show evidence of it happening at a significant enough rate that we need to do put effort into doing something about it. Seriously, how many is too many for you? If just one cis girl doesn’t make the team she wants to make, should we making sweeping changes to the entire system to protect that one girl’s feelings? If you want to argue that, fine, but vaguely saying “there is some risk” doesn’t cut it. There is some risk you’ll die if you leave your house any given day even with the protections and laws the world offers, yet you still do it, right? So “some risk” doesn’t mean anything. And talking to random parents who don’t know anything is probably convincing for someone who doesn’t think statistics and facts have an important role in shaping policy and decision making, but in the real world, that’s not how it works.
To your last point, we disagree. Calling out transphobia is necessary even if it makes you uncomfortable or you want to live in a world where you can pretend it only exists as some vile hatred of trans people.. Making up hypothetical risks that trans girls pose to cis girls, risks that you can’t even be bothered to quantify and would even go so far as to say don’t need to be quantified to be important enough to take action, is transphobic. It just is. This issue needs to be addressed with facts, statistics, and real information. Not the imagination of transphobic parents who have no idea what they’re talking about. Sorry if you don’t like when things are described as they are or when people want facts, life must be tough.
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I don't think GirlySports is being transphobic at all. I think it is a nuanced conversation that should be had without calling people names.
I'm not even sure where you are going with this. Women fought hard in the US for title ix and it has been a mostly positive thing. To my understanding, I think NCAA has rules in place that are adequate, and I think they follow along with the cycling example earlier. I think GirlySports would likely agree with that last statement as well.
So, what is your stance on this?
1. Anyone should be able to identify as the gender they identify with, and be able to play with that gender at any level.
2. Guidelines should be clear and in place for elite women sports and late teen girl sports that quantify hormone levels to be eligible.
3. Female sports are regressive and sexist, and women and men are equal and they should all play on the same field based on merit.
4. Have no rules on this at any age or level as it is too rare to be a problem and if it becomes a problem down the line, deal with it then.