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Originally Posted by karl262
Ukraine and indeed the rest of the world cannot give Russia any recognition of these new made-up borders, not even an inch.
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Just for the record, I agree that this should be the goal.
However, that's mutually exclusive with a quick peace, and it's not an unreasonable position to think the borders don't actually matter that much, even if we disagree with it. It's possible to understand a position you don't share.
Russia's attack on Ukraine has already been a complete disaster and a massive loss for Russia in many ways anyway.
It's also worthwhile to be realistic about it, and remember that Russia still has a ton of metal and manpower on their side.