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Old 02-13-2023, 08:10 AM   #180
Royle9
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss View Post
Scorched earth rebuild sounds great until your realize any team that has had success doing it - sucked for like 7 years in a row. They were just terribly managed and then lucked their way into success.

Even if you consider a team like Toronto a success of a scorched earth rebuild - they've won less playoff rounds than Calgary in recent years. But you look at the worst teams in 15-16:

Toronto - are a good team now, but haven't won a playoff round
Edmonton - no good
Vancouver - still suck and have never really been good
Columbus - still suck and have never really been good
Calgary -
Winnipeg - never really a contender
Arizona - still suck
Buffalo - still rebuilding
Buffalo's is actually starting to look really good now.
Vancouver has never gone full scorched earth yet, not even this year.
Toronto has also never gone full scorched earth
Columbus just sucks, doesnt matter what they do.
Arizona is the epitome of how not to run a franchise, I wouldn't use them as a case point in anything NHL related. Not sure how Chayka is still employed.

The other MAJOR factor in scorched earth rebuilds is doing so in years where the draft stock is high. Couple that with almost certainly requiring you to get lucky and draft 1st if not top 2-3 during your worst years of said rebuild.

Edmonton got lucky (5 times over and still managed to F__k it up) - Still suck
Toronto got lucky with Matthews
Pittsburgh got lucky w/ Crosby and Malkin
Washington w/ Ovechkin etc etc

Buffalo on the other hand is the 'slow' rebuild model, where you inevitably get stuck rebuilding because your worst year you lose the draft lottery to the bloody oilers and McSaviour ends up out west.
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