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Old 02-10-2023, 12:18 AM   #113
Paulie Walnuts
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18 View Post
It worked for one line last season. The rest of the team shot 6.23% and were negative goal differential at 5v5.

Sutter's system can work...but LA's teams had similar issues at times. Goals at 5v5 were hard to come by, and if goaltending faltered it would be a struggle.

The consistent though is abysmal shooting percentage at 5v5

Look at Sutter's 5v5 stats in LA and Calgary

11-12: 40-27-15 Won Cup
52.7% xGF, 6.05% Shooting %, .929 SV%

2013: 27-16-5 Lost in Round 3
54.9% xGF, 7.54% Shooting, .915 SV%

2013-2014: 46-28-8 Won Cup
55.5% xGF, 6.6% Shooting, .935 SV%

2014-2015: 40-27-15 Missed Playoffs
54.0% xGF, 7.56% Shooting, .926 SV%

2015-2016: 48-28-6 Lost in Round 1
54.5% xGF, 6.78% Shooting, .929 SV%

2016-2017: 39-35-8 Missed Playoffs
54.3% xGF, 6.26% Shooting, .920 SV%

2021-2022: 50-21-11 Lost on Round 2
54.9% xGF, 8.52% Shooting, .925 SV% (Top line shot 13%, rest of team 6.23%)

2022-2023: 24-18-10
54.1% xGF, 7.83% Shooting, .904 SV%

So the team at 5v5 is very much a Darryl Sutter team at 5v5. Strong expected goals and poor shooting percentage. The thing that is actually very unlike a Sutter team at 5v5 is the save percentage which is abysmal.

The highest point total anybody in LA had in the 5 full seasons under Sutter was Kopitar with 74 points. He had 92 points the first year after Sutter and 81 before Sutter. In his last season with Sutter he had 52 points in 76 games (Interesting enough Huberdeau is on pace for 55).

The offensive production from the top line under Sutter last year was a complete outlier and anamoly for a Darryl Sutter run team. Honestly it would have been interesting to see them run it back to see if it would have happened again - since its a compete outlier for a Sutter coached team.

As for Huberdeau...I honestly think he might actually just be so focused on defensive hockey and the system that he's thinking too much on the ice. However his underlying stats almost perfectly mirror what you see on Sutter run teams.

XGF%: 54.33%
xGF per 60: 2.56
xGA per 60: 2.15 (2nd lowest to Backlund on the team)
High Danger Chances Against per 60: 8.96 (lowest on the team)
Shooting Percentage: 7.60%
Save Percentage: .929 (by far the best on the team)

For a team that many have said have been plagued by giving up too many high danger chances, and that has led to the poor goaltending...not for Huberdeau.

Defensively he's given up the least on the team. Near the lowest xGA, second lowest GA per 60, lowest high danger chances, and highest save percentage. It literally is a carbon copy of Sutter's results in LA and Calgary. Super low event hockey with strong defensive metrics.

Huberdeau might deserve the Selke. He has shut down more offense than any other player this year - both his own and his oppositions offense.
Look at those save % he needed to ride into cups and even with Kipper setting modern day records.

Making a career out of crazy goaltending and talking yourself up like a offensive genius with 1 great offensive year.

Starting to really believe Sutter is in Maurice country and one of the most overrated coaches in NHL history.

Bowman won cups with Osgood
Quenville won with Neimi
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