[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Muta

I think the WV location is a terrific location and has more accessible, city-wide major transportation routes than the current location - N-S on Crowchild Trail, E-W on Bow Trail, the river path on the north side, and accessible on the Blue Line LRT. Its proximity to Kensington, Sunalta and west downtown is great too and biking becomes more of a legitimate option. Great aesthetic location for residential and commercial development too... I think 10th Street is going to become the next 'it' street in Calgary, starting in Sunalta (and it's already starting).

Bow Trail isn't a city wide transportation route. It serves the same people best served by transit. Nobody should be taking Bow Trail to go to the arena in the West Village. Crowchild similarly is best used by people who already have the best transit access. These roads being the major transportation points would mostly serve to take more people off transit use, which is extremely undesirable.

If people are driving to the arena, where are they going to park? Is the rest of the West Village not going to be developed and just stay surface lots? If the justifications for an arena in the West Village are 'its easier to drive to' then it's a project that isn't in the best interest of the area.

The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't connect as easy to the Green Line and Red Line LRTs, and you would need to transfer as a train commuter. That said, I don't think it's an impossible challenge to cross; currently, you have to do it to get onto the Blue Line from the Saddledome anyways.

It's worse than the Saddledome is now, but that isn't even what it should be compared to. The proposed Victoria Park location is a 600m walk from the Red Line, 800m walk from the Blue Line. Effectively on the Green Line. The ability to easily move people around is exponentially greater in a Victoria Park location, and move around better in a better way.

Because of the restrictions on the Stampede Grounds themselves, a Vic Park location has better parking options in perpetuity as well, even if the revenue goes to the wrong people (in CSEC's view).

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The pedestrian access would be a pretty easy fix. All along 9th and the river.

Which makes the walk longer and less desirable. Especially in winter.

Also not an easy fix because of the Bow/9th Ave and 14th St Interchange. Sending people north to the river or south to 9th run into the same problem. Conflict with infrastructure designed to make car travel easier and faster. So it's a very expensive fix.

And further development is obviously planned - that's why they want to do it.

The further development is planned doesn't have the majority of the land being taken up by an arena or arena/stadium. When you say 'that's why they want to do it' you are only talking about the Flames, who want to do it because the WV location is where they can make money off development, because they can't with an EV location because the land and development rights belong to somebody else. The city doesn't want the arena in the West Village.