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Old 02-06-2023, 07:58 AM   #110
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Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald View Post
Cops are very different from everyone else. As Locke pointed out, it is a cultural thing with most police services. They recruit a bunch of extreme type A
personalities who have authoritarian tendencies, give them training which relies on violence for problem resolution, arm them to the teeth, and give them qualified immunity for their actions. What outcome do you expect?

The problem with cops is they "police" matters, and "enforce" the law, rather act as peacekeepers. If they would hire people who have empathy and understand how to communicate - actually listen and speak to find resolution - rather than relying on their gun or taser to enforce their will, they would have a much better reputation and be better at their jobs. The reason cops have a bad reputation is because the larger percentage of them are obnoxious alpha types who scare the public rather than being approachable and affable to deal with. Their reputation is well earned but most if has developed over decades of bringing the wrong type of person into the fold and then training them to be use force at the first sign of conflict.
Do you mind sourcing some of this? Specifically:

1) (recruit) personalities who have authoritarian tendencies, give them training which relies on violence for problem resolution.

2) give them qualified immunity for their actions.

3) If they would hire people who have empathy and understand how to communicate - actually listen and speak to find resolution - rather than relying on their gun or taser to enforce their will.

4) The larger percentage of them are obnoxious alpha types who scare the public rather than being approachable and affable to deal with.

5) training them to be use force at the first sign of conflict.

From everything I have read, most of this is the exact opposite, specifically regarding recruiting and training. I think there has been a substantial shift in both those areas and rightfully so.

Maybe it is different in the US and I certainly don't disagree that such a profession could certainly attract a certain personality but I don't think "larger percentage" is justified by ANY research I have seen.

I am interested in "peacekeeper" idea. Can you define that? What does that look like in the real world? At a domestic for example. How does applying criminal law (or any other law/bylaw) work with a peacekeeper?
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