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Originally Posted by bizaro86
I mean, I agree that correlation doesn't prove causation. But fare collection went up over 10% after they installed the gates. Population growth in the greater Vancouver region averaged 1.3% between the relevant censuses (censii??). There was no fare increase during the measurement period. The Canada Line opened more than 6 years prior, so presumably any extra traffic from that was baked in.
At some point Occam's razor applies here.
As for the fines - Translink's website says its $173. So even if we assume all 10,000 of those less fines actually got paid you're only at $1.73 MM in lost fine revenue against $40 MM in increased fares. Plus having the transit cops freed up from writing tickets to deal with bigger issues seems like a potentially significant benefit given the topic of this thread.
Like I mentioned before - I don't think walling off downtown stations makes sense. But a lot of the suburban ones have one entrance. Gates wouldn't be insurmountable there and would almost certainly pay for themselves.
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I was thinking about this after you mentioned leaving downtown open. You don’t need to wall of downtown if you have a ticket to leave system.
You leave downtown as is and when you enter or leave a platform you have to scan your ticket/Ap. This would cover all trips as long as you only have one location without gates.
Now this does nothing for Safety or dealing with homeless as the down town access would still exist but it may work to improve fare collection.