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Old 01-30-2023, 11:15 AM   #306
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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache View Post
This does not create cognitive dissonance for me

Structurally, Sutter has the team doing good things, that are reflected favourably in the models

I’ve watched all the games and all the goals, just haven’t catalogued them. Nor do I plan to

What Valiquette did included differentiating between shots based on how long the goalie had to get set after the puck crossed the RR, right? That made a material difference.

No model you point to considers that.

You could have not just 2, but 30 models that agree. As long as they are based on what’s easy to measure, what’s available, but miss the context that matters because it’s too hard to measure, for practical purposes, then they will have limitations.

Not sure why that is an issue.

I look at a model, consider what it does, and what it can’t do. That informs my view of the conclusion
I'm just reporting the models results.

You just have a gut feel that it's wrong, and honestly of course it is! Any model of this nature is always wrong to some degree.

But is it wrong with a bias? Does it unfairly treat Calgary goaltenders and benefits Calgary team defense?

That's the stretch I can't agree with (if you're making that assertion)

If you're not making that assertion, then on average based on the collection of data Calgary is in the top 5-6 in what they give up, but their goaltenders are mid to just below average.
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