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Originally Posted by Burning Beard
After a 3 point night against the top team in the division and still complaining.
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Complaining? lol. Talk about tunnel vision. In my post I stated Lindholm is an awesome player. Just because I don't think he's a #1 centre on a true Stanley Cup contending team I don't like the player?
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
He’s one of the best defensive forwards in the league, playing better on that side of the puck than bottom six guys who specialize in it (spends more time short handed than most of the league and still produces), and he’s a number one because he can bring the offence as well. He’s excellent on faceoffs and I think you’re wrong by about his ability to carry and control the puck. Of course he looks less dangerous offensively without two 100+ point players on his wing. Literally every guy you named looks less dangerous with weaker wingers, and few of them are exceptional enough to look completely dangerous on their own.
He’s comparable to Bergeron, Backstrom, O’Rielly, Toews, Kopitar, Getzlaf, Krejci, etc. I think when you balance out offence and defence, he’s better than Backstrom, O’Rielly, Toews, Kopitar, and Krejci. You can disagree, and that’s fine, but saying he can’t be a number one on a stanley cup winning team is lazy and dumb.
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I don't disagree with his ability to produce, play in his own zone or win faceoffs. He's a very good player. In my opinion a #1 centre, on a contender, the #1 centre needs excel at carrying the puck and gaining the zone, which I don't think is a strength of his. If you want to call me lazy for having that opinion based on watching the Flames, that's fine.
Also not disputing the fact that he isn't going to be as dangerous without Gaudreau or Tkachuk, that's a given, simply stating that the 1st line is missing a calibre of player that excels at zone entries. Hell even the power play struggles because of this.
I'll give you O'Reilly, Krejci wasn't mentioned because he isn't a 1st line centre, the others are all hall of famers yet you think they are comparable to Lindholm? Lindholm is a good player but he ain't at that level.