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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
I tend to suspect the same would be true, in a lot of those cases, for a block of tiny low cost apartments. I can see a lot of ways that could either be ineffective or go badly too. I guess it's still a thing to try, if you can find somewhere to put it with all the NIMBYs out there, but I am very skeptical of "just give the addicts houses" as some silver bullet solution.
Not to mention, wherever you put it, is it going to resemble the 2 block area surrounding the DIC? Because I don't know if you've spent any time around there, but...
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Oh trust me, I get called to that area constantly.
All I've been trying to say in this thread is that it's not as simple as roughing them out of where they're bothering people. Over and over and over people ask "Why is this being tolerated" or "Why aren't the police doing anything" and the thing they're missing with that question is, the police are doing something. It's just that the problem is so large that you don't notice it, whenever these people get booted out of there, others come in. When they get booted out of there, they just come back. Trust me, the police are sick of it too, they're on a first name basis with half these people, but there's nothing they can do about it, they don't have the ability to change laws or policy
I simply disagree with the idea that we just need to do more of what we've clearly seen doesn't work
We need carrot
and stick, not one or the other.
Basically, this thread is just going to keep going back to this
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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
But if we arrest that person, do they stay in jail? Do they get any help? Do they get clean while there? Are there any resources that go into the corrective behaviour process? No?
Just like, a couple days (or hours) and release? That’s Vancouvers “strategy”, which to your point- seems like a half measure. It’s okay to keep people like this locked up if they aren’t otherwise willing to take help. That’s I think the part where Portugal shines. It’s get them off the street, decriminalize and then force them to attend resources designed to get them off addictive substances like therapy, a social worker who doesn’t have a million cases and is paid a living wage and competent, and yes probably food / shelter for a minimal period of time. But those resources are not a) infinite and b) technically optional. If a person refuses- back to jail, not back to parking lot to yell at people and do drugs again.
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