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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
No it is not.
Blaming death, violence and school shootings on feminism and a general lack of god-fearingness is silly. The idea that everything was hunky-dory in the 50's was long ago discounted by the former acolytes of Jerry Mathers.
I find it hard to believe that a teenage girl wrote that letter. No teenager I've ever known pleaded for harsher discipline, child abuse and more churchiness in their lives.
Tacking on the truly bizarre part about killing Serbian children makes me even more suspicious.
Of course if a teenager actually did write this 8 years ago, she was obviously pretty clever (albeit misguided) and I'm sure she has spent some time outside Hicksville and at a decent university, so she's probably embarassed about this letter now and hopes nobody she knows will bring it up.
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I meant the basic premise that its not violence on TV, videogames, or anything like that which has led to a degraded society, but society itself. I certainly didn't mean (and I doubt she meant) that feminism is wrong, but its no secret that feminism has changed society and blurred the lines quite a bit. Like I said in my response, Allan Bloom wrote a very good book discussing this problem on how "gender roles have been blurred and no one is quite sure how to be a man/woman in today's society." Since the stereotypical "man's man" is a mysogynist dinosaur, and the stereotypical "girly girl" spends hours looking pretty for men and preparing dinner. Very few fit in those roles anymore, and they would definitely be way beyond the mainstream.
Funny you assumed she has to be a biblethumper. The only thing religious she said was "God given days." We've had this discussion enough times, religion =/= conservative, religion =/= morality. Many non-Christians pine for a society that has tougher penalties for disobedience and disorder.
All I said is it is tough to disagree that the opening up of society has not been all wine and roses, and you'd be as naiive as a newborn to deny that. The overwhelming amount of choice and loss of definitive roles has caused a lot of damage to people. Divorce, depression, etc. have all risen substantially since the 1950s.
Funny, what you call "child abuse" was "child discipline" not long ago. Nowadays, rather than slapping one's disobedient kid in the ass for being a brat, people will stand there and try to reason with their child vainly. "Jimmy, stop that please, Jimmy... please... could you... could you stop..." But thats a different discussion. Of course, there's a difference between a spanking and beating a kid about the head with a bat or something.