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Old 01-17-2023, 09:12 PM   #9650
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Originally Posted by peter12 View Post
Send all of them over. We don't need MBTs.
We'll agree to disagree.

For direct fire support and protection in a non direct fire and even direct fire MBT offer superior fire power, range and protection.

The MPFP that you alluded to is a nice infantry accompaniment, but wouldn't have great survivability or range in a battlefield with MBT roving through it, and since warfare preparation is shifting away from asymmetrical warfare to expected nation state vs nation state warfare MBT are still extremely useful.

Now people can point at me and say "But Captain the Ukrainians are killing Russian tanks in great numbers". But I will tell you that is more about bad training, bad operators, terrible Russian Leadership and planning, and some unexpected flaws in Russian tanks that were good in the 80's and early 90's, but not anymore.

For Canada's inventory, we have 20 of the really good Leopard 2A6M's which are good tanks

We supposedly have 62 of the 2A4Ms, but I think that half of those are combat capable.
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