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SuperMatt18 · 01-13-2023, 01:06 PM

Funny part is you don't get much of a different view if you just look at regular season standings over that time.

Tampa Bay: .661
Washington: .660
Boston: .633
Pittsburgh: .631
St. Louis: .625
Vegas: .622
Nashville: .608
Minnesota: .601
Florida: .596
NYR: .583
NYI: .579
Toronto: .574
Winnipeg: .573
Dallas: .571
Carolina: .571
Calgary: .570
Colorado: .565
Anaheim: .553
Columbus: .549
San Jose: .547
Chicago: .541
Los Angeles: .537
Philadelphia: .532
Edmonton: .526
Montreal: .523
Vancouver: .502
Ottawa: .484
Detroit: .468
New Jersey: .468
Arizona: .441
Buffalo .430

The similarities of Colorado and Calgary are interesting to me.

Both bad in 2013 and draft Mackinnon and Monahan that same year. Colorado had their "unexpected" playoff year in 2014, Flames had it in 2015. Both got elite wingers with early picks in later years in Rantanen & Tkachuk.

Biggest difference was probably that injuries derailed Monahan, while Mackinnon continued to develop. And that their 4th overall - Makar became elite, while the Flames 4th overall - Bennett is mostly average.

And the most frustrating part of the whole thing...if Adam Fox just signs here then we have our Makar. And if Nazim Kadri waives his NTC then we have him and Connor Brown instead of Brodie leaving as a UFA and Mark Jankowski. Two little things don't go the Flames way due purely to thing outside Treliving's control...and boom there is the difference between the Flames and Avs in their quest to build a contender.

Honestly I think it would be a big mistake to move on from Treliving. Roof-Daddy's post above is bang on, looking at the process instead of the results and I think you see that we have a pretty good GM.

01-13-2023, 01:06 PM	#27
SuperMatt18 Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Calgary, AB Exp:	Funny part is you don't get much of a different view if you just look at regular season standings over that time. Tampa Bay: .661 Washington: .660 Boston: .633 Pittsburgh: .631 St. Louis: .625 Vegas: .622 Nashville: .608 Minnesota: .601 Florida: .596 NYR: .583 NYI: .579 Toronto: .574 Winnipeg: .573 Dallas: .571 Carolina: .571 Calgary: .570 Colorado: .565 Anaheim: .553 Columbus: .549 San Jose: .547 Chicago: .541 Los Angeles: .537 Philadelphia: .532 Edmonton: .526 Montreal: .523 Vancouver: .502 Ottawa: .484 Detroit: .468 New Jersey: .468 Arizona: .441 Buffalo .430 The similarities of Colorado and Calgary are interesting to me. Both bad in 2013 and draft Mackinnon and Monahan that same year. Colorado had their "unexpected" playoff year in 2014, Flames had it in 2015. Both got elite wingers with early picks in later years in Rantanen & Tkachuk. Biggest difference was probably that injuries derailed Monahan, while Mackinnon continued to develop. And that their 4th overall - Makar became elite, while the Flames 4th overall - Bennett is mostly average. And the most frustrating part of the whole thing...if Adam Fox just signs here then we have our Makar. And if Nazim Kadri waives his NTC then we have him and Connor Brown instead of Brodie leaving as a UFA and Mark Jankowski. Two little things don't go the Flames way due purely to thing outside Treliving's control...and boom there is the difference between the Flames and Avs in their quest to build a contender. Honestly I think it would be a big mistake to move on from Treliving. Roof-Daddy's post above is bang on, looking at the process instead of the results and I think you see that we have a pretty good GM. Last edited by SuperMatt18; 01-13-2023 at 01:14 PM.