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Old 01-11-2023, 03:50 PM   #550
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Originally Posted by midniteowl View Post
We can talk about this in 15 or so years when you can prove that he has taken something. Bring it up now accuse someone with something you cannot prove is beyond silly!

What's more naive? Assuming the 37 year old 6'3, 240 lb Russian hockey player with ~3,500 career hits is still operating near peak performance is doing it clean or doing it dirty? There is little to no historical precedence for this kind of thing. Most precedence would indicate that a beat-up body with lower natural testosterone would perform significantly worse. Why pretend like there no place for this in the discussion at all?


Say you had a crystal ball you could look into that gave you a definitive answer: What odds would you put on Ovie doing this 100% clean? Russians slip performance enhancing drugs to their athletes all the time, often without them knowing: "time for your vitamins, boys". I recently listened to an interview with Islam Makhachev, UFC 155 lb champ and Russian, and as a youth he was given all kinds of stuff by russian sporting officials and he always just took whatever was given and it's crazy how strong this guy is now. Ovie could have been juiced to the gills at 14 without him ever knowing it and he'd first in line for all their bleeding edge stuff now.


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Originally Posted by Locke View Post
Wait...what? Like...Thetans or something? Does he need to be Audited?

Pictured: 44 year old man powered by ancestral tenants (update: turns out ancestral tenants were testosterone replacement therapy)

*just google a picture of liver king, can't get the pic to work"
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