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Originally Posted by dino7c
I thought it was Coronato OR a first
certainly not both
Mangiapane looks like a disaster though, he probably has negative value
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Mangiapane has been poor by the eye test..but really it's not a disaster at 5v5. Konecny has 4 more points at 5v5.
8 goals is still tied for the Flames lead at 5v5 and 16 points is 5th. 16 points at 5v5 ranks tied for 116th in the NHL.
Here are some other forwards that have 8 goals and 16 points at 5v5 like Mangiapane.
-Ryan Nugent Hopkins
-Rickard Rackell
-Sebastian Aho
He has more to give, but no chance is he negative value yet. And those results are with a 6.7% on ice shooting percentage which is crazy low and about 1.5% below his career average.
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Originally Posted by boogerz
Mangiapane is a decent player, but he has only performed well as a triggerman with certain types of linemates - Backlund/Coleman and variation of that combo in Henrique/Brown (World Championship)
How much of a premium do you put on the extra versatility and skill that Konecny could add? He's well-rounded enough to add another dimension to any of the Flame's lines - e.g. two-way presence for Backlund/Coleman, puck carrying for Lindholm/Toffoli, or general high-end skill (playmaking or finishing) for Huberdeau/Kadri.
By the time Coronato becomes as good as Konecny, the immediate cup window that Treliving is try for will have passed.
Long story short, I'm a big fan of Konecny and think that he would be a great fit on the current iteration of the Flames, even if that means trading Mangiapane and some futures.
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Konency has been just as if not more inconsistent than Mangiapane.
I'd love to add him but not at the cost of Mangiapane + Coronato, or Mangiapane+1st, let alone both of the add ons.
It would be buying high on Konecny and selling low on Mangiapane, which is always a risk with players changing teams and rosters (looks at Jonathan Huberdeau).
The team needs to add a top 9 forward without getting rid of one of our top 5 forwards.