[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by HOZ

Or we could just love old technology and give it a new trendy name. I mean logic is really not your strong point.

So... thats honestly what you think is happening here? A bunch of people are duping themselves into using antiquated technology... why? The farmers certainly aren't doing it to reduce their emissions, they're doing it to grow more food and make more money. How does your logic dictate they should use a less efficient way to irrigate? Seems to me that your 'logic' is basically what I would call your 'point of view', don't get the two mixed up.

Machines were invented to free up labour. Now we are to reverse that. Great. Only one other country with such a multitude of cheap labour to draw from as India has.

You're taking a single concept and applying it in a way that doesn't make sense. Treadle pumps are more efficient and help the farmers make more money than Deisel pumps. Do you have a different point to make here on this? Why are you turning this into some anti-technology debate... this is a single-issue concept here (the Treadle Pump)... care to actually adress the particular example you brought up in the first place? No?

But some how were are to believe that.....since it is now human labour instead of deisel pump-power, they now have more harvests? Hmmm... how did that come about? (Skip the historical facts : Machine power > human power = more food)

Apparently also skip the link I posted... again, we're talking about a specific issue here (Treadle Pumps), not technology vs. human labour around the world. Try to differentiate the two. No one here has said that human labour should be used in every case possible where a machine currently works... no idea where you're getting that from... you've essentially made up that side of the argument, then rail against it... I don't see the point. No one here is defending the introduction of Flinstone-style cars, but from the way you're talking, you're the last man standing against them.

Now if the labour is cheaper and therefore these communities can afford to have this (like I said the labour was cheaper than the deisel) then I can see this happening. Not because we changed from deisel engine to labour but because more communities can have that all new technology called "irrigation". And because they can have irrigation they can have more more harvests and therefore their income improves.

Well... the link says going from Deisel pumps to Treadle pumps increased efficiency and production, and allowed the farmers to stay at home rather than work in the cities... sounds like a good deal to me. If the site is wrong, go ahead show us something to back it up.