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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Conn Smythe is incredibly important but doesn't carry a whole bunch of weight for me in the greatest ever conversation. Cam Ward, JS Giguere, Bill Ranford certainly aren't in the great goalie conversations.
Macinnis is probably around 20 to 25 for greatest D men IMO. Potvin gets underrated because of his contemporaries as does Brad Park. And Doug Harvey is one of the all time greats of the game. Eddie Shore too.
Chelios, Pronger, Robinson, Lapointe, Leetch, Chara the list goes on.
NHL.com did rank him 11th in the expansion era, which I would argue is a little high and over emphasizes stats and offense. But don't really see how you could go any higher and that doesn't include previous era.
Yes his defensive game was underrated, but it also got better as he got older.
But top 5 all time?
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It seems weird that you'd take the defenseman with the 3rd most points all-time and drop him down to 25th all-time in the ranking