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Originally Posted by Flaming Homer
Its funny cause I think thats a knock against him. I think its horrible that a GM acts like what the majority of fans hope for. What do any of us really know about running a team or building a roster long term? He waits until the fan base is foaming at the mouth for a solution to an issue and over pays to aquire the biggest name available in that position and then we all collectively circle jerk over it until down the road we all realize it was a poor decision in hindsight. Can anyone clearly explain what his plan has been or what he has been building us up to be? Because all I see is him ever doing is damage control when an issue becomes big enough it cannot be left be. We've bled picks to stay relevant in the moment yet never really internally adressing the issue or looking too long term fixes.
Looking back what trade did he outright win and it helped the team? Only one I can think of is Hamilton for Hanifin and Lindholm (Lucic/Neal im not giving credit for because it was still a bad overpaid player coming back to fix a error he already made). Everything else we gave away picks because Treliving cherishes what he has on the team, never shook up the core until it literally moved itself. And look where its gotten us? Is anyone happy with where we are? Or that this is all part of some master plan?
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The only "pick bleeding" I can think of is trading to get Hamonic and Elliott. In hindsight those were mistakes, but that's going back 5-6 years. He's done a much better job since then. Sure he traded a first for Toffoli, but that was an excellent trade as Toffoli has been one of the best players on the team this year.
Tre's work this offseason was a masterstroke. If Kylington had been with the team playing all season, this team likely has 8-10 additional points in the standings and we're not here having this discussion.
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Originally Posted by Jason14h
The recent Stanley Cup winners were sure trading a lot of their to be free agents for futures . Or was it the other way around…
Despite what you may want , the Flames are not rebuilding / in a rebuild phase
Rightfully or wrongfully they are in their win the cup phase right now . You don’t trade to be free agents for asset management .
It’s been the opposite - Picks to get rid of Monahan and acquire players like Toffoli
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There are times for selling and there are times for buying. Teams in their contention window tend to buy. It's no surprise.
I'm not equating 'buying' with 'bad asset management'. They are two different things.