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Old 12-18-2022, 05:34 PM   #3709
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Haha, every opinion you don’t agree with is ‘partisan whining’. Everyone’s a partisan .. except you. Calling out criminality at the cabinet level and the Prime Ministers complete abdication of accountability and leadership is now ‘whining’?

To be clear, I did not mean to imply that Trudeau has called PP a racist. I’m not aware he’s done that. Though he probably will, and be cheered on for it. I was referring to Trudeaus tendency to reflexively call groups and individuals that he disagrees with racists and bigots, without evidence or cause, and the collective pass he gets for it in many circles.

I’ve already answered your question, but once more: PP’s use of jr high school phrases to characterize Trudeau is dumb and worthy of derision. (Though Justinflation is actually an accurate, if un-nuanced, name association). But they are pointed at one person and with at least a plausible link to reality. They are not nearly as corrosive and divisive as slurring entire groups of people as racists where there is no evidence of racism. So, both are bad, and one is far worse.

It is a sad commentary, if your opinion is representative of the majority Canadians, that no one really cares about the latest ethical transgression by a cabinet minister. I don’t actually think it’s true, nationally.
I didn’t say it was partisan whining, I asked if it was because you struggled to answer the question straight and kept presenting weird conversational double standards for something that was very simple and straightforward. Don’t want to hear name calling criticism about PP but oh wait here’s some name calling criticism for Trudeau… but it’s actually just semantics when someone is asking you about PP’s name calling but you don’t seem to have a shortage of things to say about Trudeau’s name calling. Claiming I call everything I don’t agree with “partisan whining” misrepresents the fact that I have no problem calling partisan whining what it is and trying to clarify if that’s all it is. If you don’t like the label, don’t engage in the action. This is a you-problem. You can come up with a million reasons why the two are different, but you just finished telling me it’s semantics. “Side step! Reframe!” etc. So excuse me if I find you impossible to take seriously when you say it’s not partisan for you.

And yeah, I can name about 10 scandals worse than this cabinet ethics issue. I know you could probably name the same 10 and 20 others that you can’t stop thinking about. We’ve been through elections post-scandals worse than this and Trudeau still won. If you honestly think people care about this, you’re being impossibly naive.
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