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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
But my point is that their capabilities won't be any more diminished than they are right now and they aren't stopping. They'll continue to kill and torture Ukrainians and try to invade anyways. Negotiating anything right now isn't ending the conflict. What makes you think having a $####y army will stop Putin from trying again? It won't. It hasn't so far. This has been going on for 8 years with Russia breaking their word twice. Why is now different?
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I think we're discussing at cross purposes here because overall I think we're mostly saying the same thing and agreeing with each other just in different ways.
The War is continuing because its not about 'this' War, its about making sure there isnt another one.
All I said about Putin is that he probably isnt going to get another shot because he's ancient and will probably die soon.
This is Putin's 'Window' he either takes it...or he likely gets shoved out of it.
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A negotiated solution isn't a discontinuation of the war. It's merely a delay. Ukrainians overwhelmingly support the continuation because they want this to stop. It's been going on for 8 years now with multiple promises to stop. The only difference this time is they have the advantage. If your family was in an occupied are where you know they'll be tortured would you be willing to sign them over to Russia?
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This. Exactly this. We are saying essentially the same thing.