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Old 12-04-2022, 08:24 AM   #8043
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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT View Post
So effectively, you're arguing that because a portion of your population enjoys rolling PTO (while most low and middle income workers don't receive it at all), this is an "institutional cultural difference" and must be respected by dint that Americans love their working poor staying poor?

God bless America.
What you don't understand is the Fair Labor Standards Act does NOT require an employer to pay you for time not worked. This is a benefit that the employer extends to you and they are under no obligation to manage these programs in any consistent way, as the law clearly states that pay for not working is not required.

On the issue of options, a majority of the population prefers the roll up option. When they have both options explained to them, they much prefer the PTO option rather than vacation and dedicated sick days. Here's why.

In a system where you get 2 weeks vacation and 10 sick days you are expected to use only those days for the appropriate purposes. You get to normally bank the unused time in each to a maximum. The standard gift of vacation for employees who have not server five or more years with a company is usually two weeks of vacation (80 hours). For five to 10 years of service you will normally see another 20-40 hours granted. After 10 or 15 years you me be lucky to get another 20-40 hours, usually maxing out at around eight weeks vacation. Sick days stay consistent and you accrue hours for the time you work. The maximums are set by the company, but most allow you to accrue up to eight weeks of vacation before they start forcing you to use it or lose it. There usually is no payout option, but some will give you a 50% payout on the hours that exceed your bank. Sick days are also capped out and no payout is standard. It usually takes a few years to accrue enough vacation to where you are capped out.

In the rolled up PTO scenario, you're getting your two weeks vacation, plus 5-7 days that rolled in to the available days off. You can use all of these days as you see fit, for sick time or for vacation time. For those who don't use their sick time this helps accrue vacation time more quickly and get you to the point where you may receive a payout for the time exceeding your bank. Also, when you leave the company you are with, they have to payout your vacation, so you have that backend benefit. It works out much better for most in the American system and culture.

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"Actually, Americans love having large corporations boot on their neck, just not the government's."
Yup, that's a pretty accurate generalization. It is true that we live in a corporatocracy and people will let business get away with murder while at the same time not trusting government. This is wat happens when you are exposed to media that tells you the government is corrupt but corporations continue to work for you, the consumer. It's all backwards and bull####, but it is the American way. I personally don't like it, but I wasn't born here and wasn't exposed to the brainwashing that Americans are, especially from very early ages.
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