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Originally Posted by 8 Ball
Sure, but they don’t consider themselves lame, you do, which they don’t care about.
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I don't consider them lame. What I do consider lame is the jump in, dump a 5-second bit and run. Or come in and and run away. That's lame.
I grew up in rural, rural Alberta. I agreed with some opinions, disagreed with others. Shocking I know. And likely shocking for you that I have voted for pretty much every party, at every level of government in Alberta and multiple provinces across Canada.
But stand up. Engage. Put something out there. Finally, Yoho is doing that. Its not easy but advocacy is not easy, and you have to push through it.
Instead we were for the longest time getting snippets like this...
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Originally Posted by Yoho
For simpletons yes..
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And, sorry Roman, but I also have a hard time with this:
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Originally Posted by 14Roman14
I’ll admit.
I’m somewhat hesitant to post much on here. Being called lame was fairly minor to how far some posters went. It’s almost like they are so sure their opinion is right, they have no way to view anything else as anything but stupid. I feel many don’t realize that there are posters from in Calgary, out of Calgary, in Alberta and out, and that different areas likely have far different opinions and needs and values to a point. Sometimes what’s right for one poster is not for another and vice versa.
I am fairly involved in certain levels of politics. Have got a lot more invested in them over the past few years. I do enjoy political discussion and engaging with thoughtful, respectful people who don’t jump to the your wrong and stupid conclusion if opinions are different.
I live a very busy life, and have much better things to do than post on a message board, just to be lambasted for different opinions than the majority. The fact that so many obviously don’t have anything better to do, might explain the reason they feel the way they do politically.
I honestly have no idea how so many people are so opposed to a provincial government putting Alberta’s best interests first over federal issues/attacks on our prosperity. I think it is ridiculous so many people would fight against an act that puts the needs of Albertans first and more power to fight for Albertans. I would love to just call you all stupid, or crazy, but I won’t. I never have called any poster rude names nor will I. Say all you want that it’s soft or weak, not to post much in fear of getting called names or put down, but isn’t that what we all want is for people to live their best lives and be treated kindly regardless of differences? In no way is it easy to be put down at any age or mental standing. Life has been hard enough on so many the past bit. In a time when many need a lift, to some it’s not worth trying to engage in conversation, knowing full well at some point you will be called stupid by someone who disagrees with you right or wrong.
I’m not sure if those posters do it in order to feel like they’ve had the upper hand and make themselves feel better by putting others down or what, but there will be limited discussion if those that take the effort to post and debate leave the forum not feeling like it was a good experience.
One poster who gained a lot of respect from me was GGG. I don’t agree with a lot of his posts, GGG doesn’t agree with mine I don’t think, but GGG took the time to reach out to me and encourage me to keep posting and interacting. It was a small gesture but after feeling like I got beat down all day, it was a huge pick up a while back.
I know many of you will roll your eyes at this, or say you had it coming, or stop whining. You may be right or wrong but you are entitled to feel how you want I won’t argue but also won’t change how I feel or why.
There is a difference between calling a political figure a name on a board that that person will very likely never see and calling another poster something.
Thanks for taking the time to read this, all the best.
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So good advice, don't put people down. But then in the same post you go on to call people:
-"don't have anything better to do" than post on a message board with an opinion contrary to yours. You lead a busy life, that's good/what works for you, but you are demeaning people who have a different political ideology than you as "not having anything better to do"..."that's while they feel that way ideologically". Uh.
-no idea why people would oppose this Act, they are "ridiculous". "I would love to call you crazy, stupid, etc but I won't". Well, you didn't use the words but you effectively have. People have spent pages and pages telling why they oppose it, quoting constitutional experts, media, other sources, etc....and, yet. they are ridiculous for not supporting it. The whole paragraph effectively espouses how people who disagree with you are mean, stupid, etc, and shouldn't be like that, but then....you've effectively done that by not literally saying it, but implying everyone who disagrees with you is.
-You are going to disagree with this, but I've seen very little evidence of why you, or Yoho, or whoever actually supports this. Instead, we have seen UCP meme drops in here, comments like "its ridiculous that no one would support this and put Alberta first!!" and....not much else. Why, Roman, why? I need something of actual substance. as someone noted, you note that you have been involved in the political process/politics. That's great, that's awesome, and I commend you for doing that. But if that's the case, you should be able to provide much, much more than "ALberta good, feds bad, why do people just blast away on a keyboard in opposition?". There is nothing in there to even give me pause for thought. Give me solid, hard things. Move beyond the "standing up to Ottawa!". You are criticizing people for just blabbering that they oppose it, but I hate to break it to you, but you are just doing the opposite with no actual rationale. Smith! UCP! Alberta First! Ridiculous people don't support this! I'm not saying it, but people shouldn't be mean, but they are just hammering away on a message board against it, must be there opposite opinions to me, they have nothing else better to do but be angry!
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Originally Posted by Yoho
Followed by few words to say even less.
You don’t like the bill that’s great. Don’t kid yourself the amount of Albertans that do. It should scare you which side you are on when all these “good guys” on a federal leader level are circling in on this to stop it.
The panic and attacks we are seeing in this thread is that Smith’s plan might actually work.
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I appreciate you actually posting content of your own, Yoho. Its great to see. But I would be careful assuming that everyone outside of this message board supports this. I'm from rural, rual Alberta, a place even more conservative than you can get, and yet....people from there are up in arms against this. We've also seen opinion polls after opinion polls point to dissatisfaction overall, but I know those likely don't count for whatever reason.