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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
First of all, no, of course not. I'm not reading that - what a waste of time that would be. It would be like... I don't know, like reading Pepsifree's posts.
Second, if that sounds like force to you, you don't know what force is in this context. If it involves "calling on" someone to do something - unless the something is, "get a bunch of weapons and point them at people to get them to do what you want" - it's not force. They're "calling on" the GG and Senate to do things those people don't have the power to do, which makes them stupid, but demands to do insane things are, ultimately, just a bunch of hot air.
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Blackmail is considered force, doesn't require guns as far as I know. Force doesn't need to be physical or at gun point.
When they are trying to force the government form a new government by occupying a city, and borders then I guess I just disagree. It wasn't like they were asking if we could look at different ways to govern, they weren't trying to have discussions because they were trying to pretend it was about mandates. They tried to gain leverage and force the government to act. Let's not pretend they were sending in a petition to get an alleged sex offender to resign, it went way beyond that.
I may agree with you if they weren't occupying a city and borders.That's not asking for anything, that's demanding, and trying to use force.
Was it a stupid plan? Of course it was, they aren't smart people, that doesn't change anything.