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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
None of those points hold water.
Giving a billion dollars to who? Those movies made money. I picked cameron movies, well 2/3, but you could literaelly name dozens of other movies.
maverick, goose and viper aren't names of the characters. They're call signs that are written in big letters on their helmet for half the movie with the camera showing it close up. What are their actual character names? Basically only Marvel has achieved the feat and they had 60 years of fandom to support it and 25 movies to drill those names into our heads.
maybe we'd remember the avatar people's names if they wore big bold name tags which the camera focused on for 3 straight hours like they get in top gun.
Are you seriously pretending you cared so much about the characters and story in transformers? In Aquaman? In Black Adam? Don't be ridiculous. No one did. No one does. You can replace the movies I named with virtually any tentpole in the last 25 years.
Sure, there are a tiny, tiny number of movies where people were heavily invested, a few disney movies and several marvel movies. Few and far between other than those. They are the exception, not the rule.
Even the new star wars is filled with a bunch of forgettable characters that no one cared about and a crapy story. People want 'splosions. The idea anyone would pretend otherwise is asinine.
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They talk to each other by their call signs in the movies as well. They work as character names.
I want to go back in time when studios are spending on making original, big movies like Terminator, True Lies, Abyss, (and Raiders, ET, Star Wars, etc),
I have no ill will to the first Avatar. I just don't think it has enough juice to justify spending 14 years and a billion dollars on 4 sequels. I am not going to argue for Transformers, but they had good and evil characters that people cared about, I guess. Avatar has no characters anyone cared about, a derived story with ground breaking effects and an experience. If their just relying on the last part, it is not a multi billion dollar franchise. If Cameron comes up with a compelling story for the sequels, then it can justify its aspirations. It would also help if he brought back some of the humour that made movies like T2 and True Lies so good.