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Originally Posted by GGG

My thought is that if CBC tv production is profitable as you describe then it will be taken up by the private sector so there is no reason for it to be ran by government and the government shouldn’t be competing in the space as it offers no benefit to Canadians.

I didn't say it's profitable, I said it's "the only thing the CBC does that actively generates advertising and subscription fee revenues" and "quite literally the only part of the corporation's activities that comes close to paying for itself". It doesn't run in the black solely on the back of this external revenue, so the premise that the private sector will "take it up" is bunk: the private sector won't. And don't. What you're arguing we should do with the CBC is already the case. It already does the unprofitable things that private industry can't/won't do.

On the other hand the areas that lose money News and Radio will not be replicated by others and therefore need funding. I’m okay with increased funding to the CBC or decreased based on the budget requirements of a reasonable set of goals.

The discussion should focus on the goals first though then fund appropriately.

Well, again, it all loses money so if you acknowledge that it all needs funding, the "set of goals" is in the Broadcast Act:

(l) the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, as the national public broadcaster, should provide radio and television services incorporating a wide range of programming that informs, enlightens and entertains;

(m) the programming provided by the Corporation should

(i) be predominantly and distinctively Canadian,

(ii) reflect Canada and its regions to national and regional audiences, while serving the special needs of those regions,

(iii) actively contribute to the flow and exchange of cultural expression,

(iv) be in English and in French, reflecting the different needs and circumstances of each official language community, including the particular needs and circumstances of English and French linguistic minorities,

(v) strive to be of equivalent quality in English and in French,

(vi) contribute to shared national consciousness and identity,

(vii) be made available throughout Canada by the most appropriate and efficient means and as resources become available for the purpose, and

(viii) reflect the multicultural and multiracial nature of Canada;

(n) where any conflict arises between the objectives of the Corporation set out in paragraphs (l) and (m) and the interests of any other broadcasting undertaking of the Canadian broadcasting system, it shall be resolved in the public interest, and where the public interest would be equally served by resolving the conflict in favour of either, it shall be resolved in favour of the objectives set out in paragraphs (l) and (m);

Notice that none of its stated goals and purposes is "be profitable", or even "maximize revenue". Its purpose is to provide the kind of programming that won't be profitable, that no "other broadcast undertaking" would do.

Originally Posted by GGG

https://cbc.radio-canada.ca/en/impac...ial-highlights

Above is a link to the financials but I can’t find a breakdown between the different services.

Also CBC brings in 375 million in add/subscription revenue so for the statement that TV subsidizes radio to be true it would mean TV would need to be less than 375 of the 1.7B budget.

*sigh* I didn't say "TV subsidizes radio", I said TV is "the only thing the CBC does that actively generates advertising and subscription fee revenues" and "quite literally the only part of the corporation's activities that comes close to paying for itself". No part of the CBC actually makes a profit; as per the above, that's the point...

(They don't break down the expenses on radio vs. TV services in the annual reports and haven't for a while now, but historically it was 50/50ish.)