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Originally Posted by Itse
For the record, I'm not sure if negotiations are in any way a realistic or reasonable option, but I do see the logic.
This war is not going to be over soon with the way Russia is willing to throw people into the grinder, it has a lot of potential to get a lot uglier, there is a risk of escalation, and a purely military victory for Ukraine is impossible because you can't push the Russians further than their own border, and that's not enough to force them to stop.
I'm not saying that to suggest Ukraine should negotiate. It's after all easy for military staff to look at the situation from another continent and suggest that Ukraine should just give up their people and land.
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I agree with your take. Eventually, there is going to have to be some kind of negotiated diplomatic settlement. The only other option is to force Russia into an unconditional surrender and forced de-militarization. The second option does not seem at all possible.
I'll leave it up to people smarter than me to figure out where the sweet spot is to force Russia's hand and get the most favourable terms for Ukraine. I don't think we are there yet, but there are factors for both Ukraine and Russia that are on timers.
If the plan is to try and run down the clock and hope that Russia's economy, political landscape, and internal security collapses, this could go on for a whole generation.