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Old 11-06-2022, 09:02 AM   #7063
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Originally Posted by jayswin View Post
You missed a really good response from MaritimeQscout on the last page. He was asking if you could respond to him.
I commend you for trying to have an honest conversation here but do you really expect a rational, well-thought out response? There are plenty of conservative people that don't fall for and parrot the Alt-Right lies. Others seem to gleefully lose the ability and/or will to think for themselves. They get hooked by the right-wing propaganda network that seems to permeate the political, business and media landscape throughout the world. Most reasonable people look at the facts as objectively as they can and then draw a conclusion based on the evidence. Others start with the conclusion and then twist (or even manufacture) the facts to suit their conclusion. It's a sad reflection of the human condition but ultimately boring. The interesting question, at least to me, is why are they like this? It seems like there are two probable broad options:

1- This is a learned mindset: They were raised in an environment where these toxic notions were forced fed to them and is now part of their identity. This could be either through their developmental years or they fell down the Alt-Right rabbit hole at some point. Or it could be their livelihood depends on ignoring certain evidence that doesn't fit the narrative they're trying to stuff themselves into.

2- They are an agent of the propaganda who may or may not believe the lies they share but benefit from it.

If Yoho falls in the first category I feel sorry for him in that he is essentially living in ignorance and is a puppet of the people who actually benefit from the lies. Anecdotally, I've found that only a really significant (and unfortunately painful) incident that is undeniable is likely to awaken someone from this type of intellectual stupor. I would like to believe that these people are not a lost cause and it's worth trying to engage in dialogue with them. However, Yoho doesn't seem to want to engage in dialogue but rather just spreads the propaganda and then disappears. In which case, it seems like he falls in the latter category. If so, than he is not only not worth engaging in honest conversation, but it is best to ignore him so as not to give me any more platform than he already has. Stickman also seems to fall in this category.
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