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Old 11-02-2022, 02:11 PM   #8907
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist View Post
It's not clear those are KIA and not "eliminated from battle" to include injured. And those numbers are not believed by Western Military as they peg the number to likely be half of that.

Having said that, I think I read somewhere that estimates for injured and unable to perform are 3-4x the KIA so it's getting significant for Russia
It's KIA according to the Defense of Ukraine (they have clarified a few times in the past since this question has been often asked), they don't include injured, POWs in this number which would raise it significantly higher based on their assessment. Now whether those numbers are accurate cannot be independently validated, but they do an assessment based on what they target, bodies found and drone footage of which some is available and have been verified. For example they blow up a tank and most modern tanks have a 4 man crew, they count this 4 in those numbers. Can't be validated , just deduced, but most likely close to accurate.

US estimates have always been conservative when counting casualties and their numbers includes injured

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-St...official-says/

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Russia is seeking to increase the size of its military by 137,000 to 1.15 million. U.S. officials have said that Russia has lost between 60,000 and 80,000 troops in its misguided war on Ukraine.
Considering this is from August and injured being 3-4 times (meaning estimates would be 20-25K killed) , the amount killed is still significant even by the most conservative estimates. I couldn't find any up to date US estimates.

Last edited by Firebot; 11-02-2022 at 02:17 PM.
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