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Old 10-31-2022, 05:00 PM   #8856
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Originally Posted by opendoor View Post
None of those things would trigger Article 5.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1584587743728140289

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-St...-consequences/

Doesn't get any painfully more clear then from Jens Stoltenberg himself and the Pentagon. It's made pretty explicit that any use of nuclear material including dirty bombs would be crossing the red line.

As for the grain convoy, prior to today, it would not trigger article 5 in itself though likely to get what saw today occurring with NATO or select countries enforcing the safe passage. With direct Turkey escorts in the presence of convoy ships, an attack can definitely trigger article 5.

On the attack in the west which can trigger a major escalation, NATO is very well aware of troop movements. New troops have been recently deployed as first responders as a shot of force and to meet any escalation in the west of Ukraine.



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine...games-romania/

We are talking of scenarios where NATO would get involved that Sliver isn't willing or capable to comprehend. These are legitimate and very plausible scenarios.

If Russia attacked a NATO country direct like Latvia out of nowhere that is an immediate response, but that is unlikely going to happen in this way and I have never spoken of such.
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