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Old 10-26-2022, 11:34 AM   #322
pylon
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Originally Posted by jayswin View Post
But statistically people are at a higher risk of completing suicide attempts when guns are owned. So despite the unnessecary, over the top way they presented it to you "Huh, HUH!" the premise is not wrong.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/magazin.../guns-suicide/
I don't doubt any of that. However, I can only speak for myself. I have no suicidal ideations, and have endured challenges and tragedies in my life that would and have pushed many people over the edge. I truly believe this is more a background check issue. I've been a reference for a few people, and I have outright told someone else, I wouldn't vouch for them as I remembered a situation where they threatened to kill themselves over a breakup. Thankfully, they never made it through the process. However unfortunately it cost a friendship.... but I'm not going to lie to the RCMP and compromise my integrity and potentially victimize someone else as a favour.

Purely speculative, as it would never cross my mind to do. But if some situation in life drove me to actually end it all. The last thing I'd reach for is a gun. It's bad enough you are victimizing those that love you by ending your life, but having them find a gory mess like that, would just make it that much worse. There are a ton of way cleaner, more peaceful options I would opt for, if for any other reason, to lessen the blow on my loved ones. The only possible situation that I WOULD consider ending it all, we have medically assisted options for now, which are peaceful and humane. I've been privy to 2 MAID situations now, and it truly is as humane as you could imagine. I just fear it's getting pushed too far into grey areas as opposed to people suffering in pain with no viable outcome but near term death.... however that's another argument entirely.

That brings me to this. I truly believe that any applicant should, on their own dime, have to be subjected to a full psychologic evaluation, on their own dime, by an RCMP appointed specialist. And I think the US should follow suit. Again, if that was a new requirement, and all existing applicants were required to get one retroactively, I'd gladly volunteer. And if I failed, I'd comply with whatever restrictions were required.

I am in total agreeance that there are a huge portion of gun owners, that should not be, and I am a staunch advocate of brutally hard to pass background checks. They need to get way tougher in my opinion.
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