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Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
It seems there were since there was confusion about the rule and people questioning the disqualification.
You misinterpreting what I said. Again, read what I ####ing said.
A ball hit into a hazard of any type does not allow for a provisional. This is a very basic rule. You hit into a hazard, you must play from the hazard, take relief from within the hazard, or drop as the rules of golf demand. There is no teeing up another from the tee box if you hit something into an area marked with yellow or red stakes.
This is pertaining to the provisional. You have to drop as per the rules of golf. You do NOT have the option of hitting another ball off the tee (a provisional) unless you first declare the original ball lost. Only once you determine the fate of the first ball can you hit a second tee ball. That is per the rules of golf and as ball is at rest in a hazard. You have the option of relief from the penalty area or hazard which is normally one club for yellow stakes or two clubs for red stakes, and on line where the ball entered the hazard or as far back as the player would like in line with the tee, and yes, this can include hitting from the tee again, as dumb as that would be. But you may NOT hit another tee ball without the declaration. This is why the player was DQed. He played a provisional in a situation where a provisional was not allowed by the rules of golf. You are not allowed to re-tee without a proper declaration on the first ball. This is the part you are missing. You don't get to declassify documents just by thinking about it and you don't get to hit another ball from the tee when your ball is in a penalty area without first declaring an abandoned ball. That is the rule.
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There are a couple confusing parts in here. There is no rule of golf about having to declare a ball lost. You can always re-tee and hit your third shot without saying a thing whether your ball is in the middle of the fairway in a bunker, penalty area, wherever. In the case of the article, re-teeing was the best option since the water came right up to near the tee box. If he had just re-teed without saying anything and never found his ball in the hazard, all would have been good.
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two clubs for red stakes, and on line where the ball entered the hazard or as far back as the player would like in line with the tee, and yes, this can include hitting from the tee again, as dumb as that would be.
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This part is incorrect. For red stakes, you have to identify the place you crossed, imagine a line between the point of entry and the flag, and you can go straight back in that line. That is the same for yellow stakes.