You are literally suggesting fossil fuels should be phased out in the next 30 years.
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
The issue is that phase out of fossil fuels in 30 years is a requirement. If we don't, billions of lives are at stake [I]forever[I], and you can't undo the damage. You keep saying that phasing out fossil fuels will kill more than climate change, but I think there's zero studies to back that up.
The whole point is we have to figure out the way because there is no alternative and that's what we're in the middle of. It's not impossible, you might not be able to see it now, but that doesn't mean it can't be done.
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I think you are massively underestimating human ingenuity. There's good strides being made already and I'm quite optimistic we can do it. I really don't think people here are grasping the humanitarian costs of the climate change that's already baked in, nor the absolute devastating effects of >2°. Potentially hundreds of millions or even billions of refugees who cannot live where they were. That alone is bigger than phasing out fossil fuels over 30 years
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This shows to me you do not understand.
China, India & others are investing billions into coal, and coal production worldwide is heading towards an all time high, with likely another high point in 2023.
This is quite clearly in direct response to the fact that solar & renewables are clearly not capable of meeting demand in emerging economies, and natural gas is not available to fill the gap.
You simply cannot approach this issue thinking the solution is to phase out fossil fuels. The GOAL is to reduce emissions, and the ONLY way to do that in the next 30 years is to increase natural gas production like frickin' madmen to stop the lunacy happening with coal production in China, India & other countries.
20 years ago it would have been an option to invest into 10-15 year nuclear plant build outs. Not anymore.
What you are not understanding is the western world's stupidity with not allowing natural gas production to go bloody full steam ahead has literally equalled more coal production in the rest of the world, and every project that has been mothballed or shutdown by the greenie purists has just increased coal production even more.
As soon as everything became about being anti-fossil fuel, and not about actually reducing emissions worldwide, it became quite clear that we are pretty much screwed over.