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Old 10-19-2022, 02:17 PM   #3134
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I've wondered if moving the pedestrian lines about 10-20 feet in some instances could make sense. That way vehicles trying to turn don't have to wait on both pedestrian and vehicle gaps when making a turn. They can separate the two and they can have a spot for one car length or two that they can wait as the pedestrians continue to cross. The drawback of this is if you're making a right turn, you can't see the pedestrians as they're further away from the corner curb and people who would cluelessly stop right on top of it.

This would help a ton in down town situations though. Situations where a vehicle waiting to turn cannot because a pedestrian does a late meander onto the crosswalk.
I think that leads to pedestrians getting hit by accelerating right turning traffic.
Downtown and 6th Abe has many protected phases where there walk hasn’t turned to allow for right turns essentially splitting the green phase into a right turning movement and and a pedestrian movement.

Where there is sufficient pedestrian activity to warrant intervention this seems reasonable otherwise the car can wait.
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