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Old 10-19-2022, 10:10 AM   #708
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Originally Posted by blankall View Post
Just to clarify, Portugal doesn't send drug users to prisons, but it does send them to confined treatment centers. So they are forcing people to sober up. They're just doing it in a clinical setting. Some of these treatment centers would have fewer liberties than your average prison.
which is completely fine. It's not like we are truly sending these people to jail / prison anyway, since they get out in 5 mins with no real consequences. We literally are just driving them to a place for a very short stay and then releasing them. That's not jail / prison, that's a joke.

Contrary to prevailing wisdom the key point in that great video a few pages back is that Vancouver implemented a 4 pillar system that actually looks a lot like the Portugal model they just don't implement it properly and only focus on 1 of the 4 pillars. Portugal enforced laws and had rules / consequences in ADDITION TO the soft approach to rehab and sobriety, etc., and finding people places to stay and jobs, etc.

Just do what you originally said you were going to do. If people sober up they are then far more likely to take the ball and run with it but you gotta get them sober first. Yes that means treatment centers not prison.
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