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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
It is not a strawman at all. There are about 3 million things fossil fuels are used for and that is exactly the point you seem unable (actually, unwilling) to grasp here. You have no clue the literal millions of products and uses fossil fuels are involved with, and that's not meant to be an insult it's just true and is the problem- same for millions of other people. The adage "careful what you wish for" couldn't ever be more glaring than this precise example. Abandoning fossil fuels in 30 years will be a literal nightmare, for, as you put it, billions of people around the world.
It's also not anymore of a strawman than arm wavey "people are working on it" declarations. Who? Where? What do you mean? You think people are working on transporting food to sub-saharan Africa because fossil fuels are going to be zero in 30 years??? Really?????
We can go back to wooden boats I guess? Then we'd be cutting down trees though... also food will take about 50x longer to get there.. also... also... also... also...
you are massively underestimating fossil fuel's role in human development to this point. What's a word grander than massively? You're doing that adjective underestimating. I actually think you're purposefully trying to not think about it, because it is scary.
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I'm doing what?? I don't know about what? You have zero ideas what I know. I assure you, I know more than most. This is easily the most ignorant post on the thread.
Literally everything fossil fuels are used for that has carbon emissions is being worked on. Everything!
You mentioned steel:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottca...il-free-steel/
This is growing fast.
There are hard to decarbonize sectors, for sure. But almost all of it can be done. Maersk is looking to switch all it's tankers to methanol by 2050 which can be made with renewable energy. Aviation will likely go with a combination of renewable synthetic fuels for long/intercontinental and electrification for shorter flights. Medium/heavy duty vehicles are already being electrified.
Tell me what areas you know of that I haven't thought about? I'll literally show you who's working on it and where they're at