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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
If, and it's a big if, it is actually the case that we're on the brink of nuclear war, then it could just mean stopping the advance of troops in Ukraine for now and entering negotiations. Where it goes from there would be up to the diplomats and leaders. Maybe it still ends up in nuclear war. Maybe it ends up with giving up some lands. Maybe it ends up back with conventional war with the Ukraine taking back that land. We don't know, but it's strange to assume that no situations can be arrived at that are preferable to the worst case scenario. Time and dialogue can change many things.
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I still don't see a plan here. There's already dialogue. If you stop Ukraine from advancing, Russia can strengthen their positions. Any ceasefire while Ukraine is pushing the advantage is capitulating. It's giving Russia what it needs right now. Then what? They continue pushing the moment they have an upper hand again. And Ukraine will not accept anyways so it's moot.
What is the plan to de-escalate?
So what different things can be offered? There's already been how much dialogue, and it's still ongoing.