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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
I’m not debating any of that. This isn’t really about opinions or what’s right or wrong. We should focus on the facts:
1. Putin has decision making to launch a nuke.
2. Putins opinion therefore matters
3. His justifications, whether or not we agree with them, therefore matter
all of the above IF we want to avoid nuclear war. We can say he’s bluffing. We can say we don’t believe him. We can say we want to save Ukraine, that’s all fine.
I’m saying it’s a bad idea to keep testing a psychopath who has said he will use nuclear weapons if necessary. And we also know that continuing to provoke Russia, in his mind, is what could lead to such outcome.
Allowing Ukraine in lot NATO will be an escalation not de-escalation. It very likely leads to nuclear war based on what we know now.
Again regardless of right wrong etc. we need to be calculating with what outcome we want to avoid.
What do we want more, Ukraine in NATO or avoidance of nuclear war?
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Did you just say lets use facts and than make some pretty substantial leaps as to what is going on in Putin's head?