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Old 10-03-2022, 01:51 PM   #8240
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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee View Post
What do we want more, Ukraine in NATO or avoidance of nuclear war?
Again, false dichotomy. These are not actually related issues.

Russians already said they might consider a nuclear response if Sweden and Finland applied. All the same reasoning about spheres of influence applied, even more so in fact. Finland joining NATO is a much bigger security threat to Russia than Ukraine would be, since our border is so close to St. Petersburg.

This just isn't a real thing.

There's a ton of crazy crap coming out of Kremlin. Putin changes his justifications for the war in Ukraine constantly, and he keeps saying all sorts of other crazy stuff. We can't start living our lives based on what Putin says, because down that path is just insanity.

The only rational way to deal with Russia is to ignore the posturing and focus on things that are real.

I also want to remind you that the most likely endstate for this war is still Putin being removed from power, something which he's not likely to survive.
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