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Old 09-23-2022, 11:01 AM   #411
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Originally Posted by JohnnyB View Post
Even if people can live their whole lives in middle income communities without being a victim, the fact that not everything is bad does not imply that things are okay.
And in the same way, just because there are areas where things are bad, does not imply the city as a whole and everywhere you go is bad or that crime is unavoidable, which is the point I think I'm being clear enough making.

People who actually live in Bay View know the problems SF is facing because they actually experience those problems. Millionaires and tourists don't. I take issue with the sensationalized stories from people who stick to busy, affluent, upscale areas and still have the nerve to call the city a hell hole.

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You’re flat-out gaslighting now.

80 per cent feel crime is getting worse and 70 per cent feel the quality of life is getting worse.

Crime and safety are very big concern to San Fransiscans.
Are you actually going to pull a random article you just read with statistics that say nothing about whether someone "can" live a life unaffected by crime (which is what I said), and then have the nerve to not only say that the lived experience of myself and my family is wrong, but that sharing that experience is actually gaslighting? Do you see the irony in that? You're a piece of work. 30 million+ people live or come through that city every year. There have been 36k crimes so far this year and 24k of those were thefts. Do the math.

What do you know about it, honestly, outside of what you've read? You seem like the same type of person I'm talking about. You don't know the problem areas, or the reasons, or the good parts. You just sit 1500 miles way and pretend. Your opinion matters less than a tourist.

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