Thread: Noah Hanifin
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Old 09-06-2022, 09:03 AM   #74
Jore
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Originally Posted by dino7c View Post
Jaybo wasn't good enough for Flames fans...was in Canada's top six a year later.

A lesson to those who talk bad about Hanifin because he got walked by McDavid. (Like every other player in the league)
Dan Hamhuis was also in Canada's top 6. Was he better than Giordano? Was Kunitz better than Giroux? Either way, Bouwmeester being on the Olympic team had little to do with his performance in Calgary.

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Originally Posted by Enoch Root View Post
Hanifin had a tough series. No question. However, there are other factors here that influenced that a great deal:

2) the forwards played terribly defensively, allowing McDavid to gain possession and full speed from the neutral zone, effectively leaving the defensemen hung out to dry. And that happened a LOT - far too often - and because Hanifin-Andersson were out there for most of the tough assignments, they wore the brunt of that.

3) Markstrom had a tough series, and when the D were beaten, the puck wound up in the net more often than not. Defensemen get beat regularly, that's part of hockey - that's why you need good goaltending.
If this were true, wouldn't this also mean that Kylington-Tanev, when they did draw in, would also be underwater and bleeding chances and goals? Presumably Markstrom and the forwards would be equally bad for all defenders.

Instead, Kylington-Tanev, both clearly injured, got 34:40 minutes of 5 on 5 ice time against the Oilers' top competition and gave up 0 goals while scoring 3. Hanifin-Andersson got 69:40 and gave up 9 while scoring 2.

I'm not a math genius, but those rates seem pretty stark.

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Just saying 'Hanifin had a bad series, he can't handle McDavid' is over simplistic at best, if not wildly naive.
He did have a bad series. He can't handle McDavid. Those are the facts we should start from.
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