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Originally Posted by DoubleF
So guilty by association? Well, I dunno, I guess that's like saying the American people support Guantanamo Bay because they pay taxes and a sliver of that goes to them, maybe?
Or Red Cross is too admin heavy vs actual aid. So donors are supporting CEOs skimming donations rather than dealing with humanitarian aid? Hmm... doesn't seem like it either.
Even if we say Catholicism did indeed pay settlements to make it go away and didn't address it correctly, it goes to many other things that are positive or operational long before that small percentage goes to those settlements.
Additionally, by highlighting what Catholicism is doing wrong and then trying to play the blanket "religions" card is under handed as well. Also to your point where you say the solution is join a church without scandal... it already is a thing. There's a reason why protestants, for instance, has thousands of denominations. But I don't think that's the out you were offering.
There's so many ways to legitimately blow up religion with ease without cheating. There's no need to stoop to that level. That's all I'm saying.
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Your first example isn't a voluntary thing, and people can vote for different governments. If I don't like how the Red Cross operates, I can donate to other institutions. Honestly it sounds like you are saying people paying money ot an organization, and attending it have no culpability,, and I think that's a pretty blinders way to view something. If propel stop going, and stop funding the church, it will collapse, and then they can't commit harm and cover it up. It's pretty basic stuff.
As for the overlooking the positives, that's like saying a murdered should go free because he helped an old lady across the street. It's ridiculous. They can do good without doing harm.
I am saying go to another church. I do know that not all religions are bad, and if it is the protestants, then fine. Join that church. DO SOMETIHNG! Take personal responsibility for or the sins of the institution you fund.
I wasn't attempting to blanket all religions as bad as Catholics, that was just the first post link. I'm sure many are worse. We can the sins of Scientology, Mormonism, Islam, or Satanism...but it's my opinion that essentially they all do more harm than good to society.