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Old 08-31-2022, 05:19 PM   #80
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But if you go to the church every Sunday(an indication of support) and donate regularly(financially supporting their activities) then you are an active participant in the "sin". People may not like to reflect on that, but I don't see how you can let it slide. For instance, the Catholic Church and residential schools. They won't release documents, allow a full clear investigation, and weaseled their way out of paying settlement money. These are real issues that have harmed real people, and by parishioners continuing to contribute, they are essentially saying they are OK with the actions of the Church. Morally, I think it's pretty tough to justify it. I get that it is uncomfortable, but sometimes the truth is.

If a Catholics wants to continue, I think the only moral solution is to join a church that isn't riddled with scandals, or to worship personally, without showing support both physically and financially. Otherwise sexual and physical abuses, and exorcisms will continue, because people have acted in ways to indicate they can accept the damage, and the Church has heard them loud and clear. Keep brushing it under the rug, and the money will keep flowing.
So guilty by association? Well, I dunno, I guess that's like saying the American people support Guantanamo Bay because they pay taxes and a sliver of that goes to them, maybe?

Or Red Cross is too admin heavy vs actual aid. So donors are supporting CEOs skimming donations rather than dealing with humanitarian aid? Hmm... doesn't seem like it either.

Even if we say Catholicism did indeed pay settlements to make it go away and didn't address it correctly, it goes to many other things that are positive or operational long before that small percentage goes to those settlements.

Additionally, by highlighting what Catholicism is doing wrong and then trying to play the blanket "religions" card is under handed as well. Also to your point where you say the solution is join a church without scandal... it already is a thing. There's a reason why protestants, for instance, has thousands of denominations. But I don't think that's the out you were offering.


There's so many ways to legitimately blow up religion with ease without cheating. There's no need to stoop to that level. That's all I'm saying.
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