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Originally Posted by DoubleF

IMO, not all religious camps nor all churches would allow exorcisms. Thereby, I wouldn't consider it the indoctrination backbone, I'd consider them fringe standing under that religion banner.

This would be akin to thinking most Buddhists at a Buddhist camp would self immolate or perform self mummification. Come on. It's fringe and abhorrent for all parties, not just the ones against that belief system. If someone's end goal is to get rid of religion long term via conversion or whatever, then unfairly vilifying those people and causing them to entrench further is one of the worst steps to take.

I don't have issues with people who have an anti-religion stance. But it's always mind boggling to me how many of those types of people can be relatively eloquent and logical to being a complete driveling idiot when the topic comes up. It's basically individuals who are arguing with an imaginary idiot and stooping down to their level and being beaten by the imaginary idiot's experience. It's bizarre.

There's a thousand ways to do it logically. Someone blowing themselves up in a self fabricated gas lighting is just... unnecessary.

No doubt the exorcism aspect is extremely dumb and fringey, no matter what the camp is about. My point about the indoctrination backbone is that it is arguable that the reason d'etre for these camps is indoctrination. Same with Sunday school, religious charter schools etc.