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Old 08-23-2022, 10:58 PM   #642
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Insult noted. Insults are not arguments, and calling me names does not make you right.



I don't. They'll be playing an AHLer as their #6. If Tanev isn't 100% at the start of the season, make that #5.



In your opinion. The fact of the matter is, the defencemen who logged the most time against McDavid and Draisaitl had the worst numbers, which is exactly what one would expect. If you think Hanifin should have done better against a pair of forwards who made every single defenceman in the league look silly, then I suggest you tell me what you would have considered an acceptable performance from him.



I don't buy that. As they say on Wikipedia, ‘*citation needed’.

The Flames jumped through all kinds of hoops to get the sort of defensive depth where they don't need to have a tweener logging heavy minutes in next year's playoffs. Now you want to trade it away again and put them right back where they were – one injury away from a defensive train wreck.



Why do you hate Americans so much? Honestly, here I see another poster who thinks American hockey players have no other mission in life but to screw Canadian teams over.



Of course, those are the only two options available. Because you can't trade him during this season, or next off-season. You can't attempt to re-sign him. Nope, if you don't trade him right this minute, with two years left on his deal, he will absolutely certainly walk.

Is that your argument?
When you take my point and completely twist it and miss every point I make and come back with nonsense like you just posted above, what would you like me to do? Pat you on the back?

I suggested trading Hanifin for a legit top 6 rw, that means I want to fire him into the sun? lol

I suggested putting Valamaki into the 6th slot, he isn't ready, I stated if you can move Lucic you have the required cap space to bring in a depth Dman for your bottom pairing, according to the above I only want a #5 or #6 to fill in that slot lol.

I made the point that Weegar is so elite IMO, in terms of the exact game he brings to the table, that you now have the ability to work from a position of extreme strength to tackle a position of extreme weakness, and still have one of the best dcores in the league, now I want to put them back in a position to where they were? They didn't have Weegar last year. If Tanev is healthy do they beat the Oilers? lol

I bring up a fact regarding Americans on this team leaving, I now "hate" Americans? So does management not have to at least be aware of whats happened specifically with American players? lol

In terms of trading him later, sure you can, but I personally feel, given the moves Tre made, this team has the ability do so some major damage if they can sort out that particular weakness. Also deadline moves, trading partners aren't exactly looking at a hockey trade, you deal with teams that are looking for futures, I personally have no interest in trading another 1st round pick. The offseason, you have every team at your disposal and hockey trades for both parties are much more common than in season.

Who are the Flames competition in the west? Colorado and Edmonton? If you rank the forwards and D of each team how would you rank them?

The Flames have a D a notch below Colorado and way better than Edmonton, does that change if Hanifin is moved? I don't think so, it remains the same.

Upfront we are 3rd amongst those teams, the Avs have star power and depth, the Oilers have 2 of the top 6 or 7 players in the league and decent depth, the Flames don't have the same star power as either team, you have to compensate somehow to make up for it and I think Hanifins value can bring in a piece where that gap can be significantly cut short because now with the acquisition of Kadri the Flames won't be so top heavy reliant as last year.

If Weegar wasn't acquired and we resigned Gundbranson, I wouldn't suggest this, now that we have Weegar and I think hes that much of a difference maker, we can afford to take a educated gamble.

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