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Firebot · 08-23-2022, 10:23 AM

Hydrogen production is such an ideological snake oil scam and just politicians providing buzz words to pretend to do something for the planet.

Natural gas = fossil fuel = bad
Hydrogen = water = good

This is the general perception

Hydrogen production overall is a byproduct of other uses, but while hydrogen itself is clean, the process to create hydrogen in all process except green causes more emissions then burning natural gas. The main difference in hydrogen production and its terminology is the source, but the reason we don't produce green hydrogen is that it's extremely cost and energy inefficient ( we are talking 30% end to end efficiency). It may feel good to create hydrogen from the electrolysis of water using solar electricity, but it's extremely inefficient and the electricity itself would have been better utilised.

https://www.greentechmedia.com/artic...s-soaring-hype

Meanwhile while Trudeau and Scholz are crossing their ideological swords to see which is bigger, Scholz's government is firing up their coal plants to not freeze to death this winter due to their ideological war on nuclear and putting its full dependency on a tyrannical despot.

There are solution to Europe's energy crisis but pure ideology is preventing logical progress.

08-23-2022, 10:23 AM	#1429
Firebot #1 Goaltender Join Date: Jul 2011 Exp:	Hydrogen production is such an ideological snake oil scam and just politicians providing buzz words to pretend to do something for the planet. Natural gas = fossil fuel = bad Hydrogen = water = good This is the general perception Hydrogen production overall is a byproduct of other uses, but while hydrogen itself is clean, the process to create hydrogen in all process except green causes more emissions then burning natural gas. The main difference in hydrogen production and its terminology is the source, but the reason we don't produce green hydrogen is that it's extremely cost and energy inefficient ( we are talking 30% end to end efficiency). It may feel good to create hydrogen from the electrolysis of water using solar electricity, but it's extremely inefficient and the electricity itself would have been better utilised. https://www.greentechmedia.com/artic...s-soaring-hype Meanwhile while Trudeau and Scholz are crossing their ideological swords to see which is bigger, Scholz's government is firing up their coal plants to not freeze to death this winter due to their ideological war on nuclear and putting its full dependency on a tyrannical despot. There are solution to Europe's energy crisis but pure ideology is preventing logical progress. Last edited by Firebot; 08-23-2022 at 10:33 AM.